Comments on: Dear Bill Keller

By: My Change of Heart 101 » Emily Kostic -

My Change of Heart 101 » Emily Kostic - — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:21:31 +0000

[...] know a lot more about new media and the internet than older people. Yes, I believe that. However, few of us are in a position where we are able to lecture older people about what they know or don’t [...]

By: Design says to Shovelware: ‘I need more whitespace’ — A Design Critique of TIME | byJoeyBaker

Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:02:23 +0000

[...] }); I took two lessons from Time’s Q&A with Bill Keller. The first, outlined in Dear Bill Keller, was intended be a short reaction to the piece, that turned into a 1600 word [...]

By: links for 2009-07-13 « Reportr.net

links for 2009-07-13 « Reportr.net — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:13:20 +0000

[...] Dear Bill Keller | byJoeyBaker "I tired of seeing an older generation of managers ruin this business for the rest of us." (tags: journalism media newspapers newmedia nytimes iran billkeller) [...]

By: Joey Baker

Joey Baker — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:55:19 +0000

Robert – I appreciate you taking the time to read the post, it obviously stirred up some strong emotions for you. I'd be happy to debate the merits of this post.

It's certainly arrogant of me to assume that I might give a gentleman with 40 years of experience some advice.

On the other hand, I strongly believe that I do know something about the way this new paradigm is working. My goal in this post was to encourage Mr. Keller to take the time to look some of that new information.

By: Robert Peebles

Robert Peebles — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:43:50 +0000

You're an arrogant little know-nothing, and a poor writer at best. Do the world a favor and stop publishing your thoughts.

By: joeybaker

joeybaker — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:55:19 +0000

Robert – I appreciate you taking the time to read the post, it obviously stirred up some strong emotions for you. I'd be happy to debate the merits of this post. While it's certainly arrogant of me to assume that I might give a gentleman with 40 years of experience some advice. On the other hand, I strongly believe that I do know something about the way this new paradigm is working. My goal in this post was to encourage Mr. Keller to take the time to look some of that new information.

By: Robert Peebles

Robert Peebles — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:43:50 +0000

You're an arrogant little know-nothing, and a poor writer at best. Do the world a favor and stop publishing your thoughts.

By: jeffsonderman

jeffsonderman — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:12:26 +0000

Great post. The NYT would do well to stop telling everyone how important and essential they are, and start showing us.

By: joeybaker

joeybaker — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:20:11 +0000

Well phrased Cody. The NYT newsroom is gorgeous — the image of a journalistic palace indeed.

I myself struggled with the idea that the older generations were ruining the business for the rest of us. To my mind, you can either a) completely forget about the 'old media' and start fresh, or b) reform the old system to work in the new.

The advantage to reform, is that you get a huge infrastructure that is nothing to sniff at. Everything from accounting departments, gorgeous newsrooms, people who know people, server rooms, and so on. It's really inefficient, (and emotionally hard) to throw all that away.

Of course, all this infrastructure comes with all the downsides of this post.

I want there to be a way for us to get both advantages, but I will admit, I'm increasingly coming around to your point of view.

By: joeybaker

joeybaker — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:20:11 +0000