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> <channel><title>Comments on: You Can’t Make Abundancy Scarce</title> <atom:link href="http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:20:20 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: El buen diseño que fomenta la lectura sigue siendo una oportunidad de negocio en el entorno Android&#160;&#124;&#160;Blogs UC</title><link>http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/comment-page-1/#comment-1239</link> <dc:creator>El buen diseño que fomenta la lectura sigue siendo una oportunidad de negocio en el entorno Android&#160;&#124;&#160;Blogs UC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:20:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://byjoeybaker.com/?p=1030#comment-1239</guid> <description>[...] [2] http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%E2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/ [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] [2] <a href="http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%E2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/" rel="nofollow">http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%E2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/</a> [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: An Economist Approach to the Newspaper Industry</title><link>http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/comment-page-1/#comment-1191</link> <dc:creator>An Economist Approach to the Newspaper Industry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:43:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://byjoeybaker.com/?p=1030#comment-1191</guid> <description>[...] brother is the guy who got me inspired/angry enough to write You Can’t Make Abundancy Scarce. Phill Baker (who has no online profile to link to), who studies economics and engineering at [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] brother is the guy who got me inspired/angry enough to write You Can’t Make Abundancy Scarce. Phill Baker (who has no online profile to link to), who studies economics and engineering at [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Wham</title><link>http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/comment-page-1/#comment-1140</link> <dc:creator>The Wham</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:22:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://byjoeybaker.com/?p=1030#comment-1140</guid> <description>I think one book that should be read by all of you is &quot;For God, Country &amp; Coca-Cola&quot;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is a lot to be learned of the history of the print industry, and how it was initially propped by manufacturers such as Coca-cola. Amazing read if you can find the book.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great UI and content doesn&#039;t correlate with money all the time. It is pretty much luck and long-term industrial partnerships and perceptions that shapes the good companies from the bad.  Myspace had a horrible UI for many years; before Facebook, it was the most popular site on the net.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Craigslist UI could be confused with UNIX Pine email software; its simplicity is amazing, but the complexity is non-existent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the real issue here is how to initially control the revenue structure in balance with the UI. The initial control, such as ads on the side, or paying for content, or forced control, is key for media companies to get their revenue back.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The RIAA wasn&#039;t wrong in their quest to consolidate the abundance; where they failed is controlling the whole music structure. If the RIAA started enacting copying rules that book publishers had in place for many years, but simultaneously set up content-rich hubs online, then they would&#039;ve won.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even though they lost, their imprint on the media industry in terms of abundance is great. Google&#039;s video/audio imprinting technology probably wouldn&#039;t have been created if it wasn&#039;t for the lawsuits or danger of people sharing content illegally. The fall of Oink, the perils of Piratebay, and the loss of population in Soulseek, and the gain of marketers/hackers/media agents in surveying torrents shows that although slow and full of mistakes, the big wigs did gain a lot of ground in the 21st century.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Newspapers have lost because their models don&#039;t work ( as well ) with the internet. But with Google&#039;s partnerships, and their technology, the UI might come from Google in a revenue-sharing plan. If this ever happens with even 3-4 big newspaper companies, god forbid, then traditional media could bring in the reins on abundance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Always look at today&#039;s news, with APs new guidelines on word use for their articles, to Facebook&#039;s removing links from specific sites. If all of these things come together, content will be re-controlled by the big media centers again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From that point, who knows what will happen. One thing I do know, the free ride will come to an end in the next few years</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one book that should be read by all of you is &#8220;For God, Country &#038; Coca-Cola&#8221;.</p><p>There is a lot to be learned of the history of the print industry, and how it was initially propped by manufacturers such as Coca-cola. Amazing read if you can find the book.</p><p>Great UI and content doesn&#39;t correlate with money all the time. It is pretty much luck and long-term industrial partnerships and perceptions that shapes the good companies from the bad.  Myspace had a horrible UI for many years; before Facebook, it was the most popular site on the net.</p><p>Craigslist UI could be confused with UNIX Pine email software; its simplicity is amazing, but the complexity is non-existent.</p><p>I think the real issue here is how to initially control the revenue structure in balance with the UI. The initial control, such as ads on the side, or paying for content, or forced control, is key for media companies to get their revenue back.</p><p>The RIAA wasn&#39;t wrong in their quest to consolidate the abundance; where they failed is controlling the whole music structure. If the RIAA started enacting copying rules that book publishers had in place for many years, but simultaneously set up content-rich hubs online, then they would&#39;ve won.</p><p>Even though they lost, their imprint on the media industry in terms of abundance is great. Google&#39;s video/audio imprinting technology probably wouldn&#39;t have been created if it wasn&#39;t for the lawsuits or danger of people sharing content illegally. The fall of Oink, the perils of Piratebay, and the loss of population in Soulseek, and the gain of marketers/hackers/media agents in surveying torrents shows that although slow and full of mistakes, the big wigs did gain a lot of ground in the 21st century.</p><p>Newspapers have lost because their models don&#39;t work ( as well ) with the internet. But with Google&#39;s partnerships, and their technology, the UI might come from Google in a revenue-sharing plan. If this ever happens with even 3-4 big newspaper companies, god forbid, then traditional media could bring in the reins on abundance.</p><p>Always look at today&#39;s news, with APs new guidelines on word use for their articles, to Facebook&#39;s removing links from specific sites. If all of these things come together, content will be re-controlled by the big media centers again.</p><p>From that point, who knows what will happen. One thing I do know, the free ride will come to an end in the next few years</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Wham</title><link>http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/comment-page-1/#comment-1131</link> <dc:creator>The Wham</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:22:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://byjoeybaker.com/?p=1030#comment-1131</guid> <description>I think one book that should be read by all of you is &quot;For God, Country &amp; Coca-Cola&quot;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is a lot to be learned of the history of the print industry, and how it was initially propped by manufacturers such as Coca-cola. Amazing read if you can find the book.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great UI and content doesn&#039;t correlate with money all the time. It is pretty much luck and long-term industrial partnerships and perceptions that shapes the good companies from the bad.  Myspace had a horrible UI for many years; before Facebook, it was the most popular site on the net.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Craigslist UI could be confused with UNIX Pine email software; its simplicity is amazing, but the complexity is non-existent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the real issue here is how to initially control the revenue structure in balance with the UI. The initial control, such as ads on the side, or paying for content, or forced control, is key for media companies to get their revenue back.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The RIAA wasn&#039;t wrong in their quest to consolidate the abundance; where they failed is controlling the whole music structure. If the RIAA started enacting copying rules that book publishers had in place for many years, but simultaneously set up content-rich hubs online, then they would&#039;ve won.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even though they lost, their imprint on the media industry in terms of abundance is great. Google&#039;s video/audio imprinting technology probably wouldn&#039;t have been created if it wasn&#039;t for the lawsuits or danger of people sharing content illegally. The fall of Oink, the perils of Piratebay, and the loss of population in Soulseek, and the gain of marketers/hackers/media agents in surveying torrents shows that although slow and full of mistakes, the big wigs did gain a lot of ground in the 21st century.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Newspapers have lost because their models don&#039;t work ( as well ) with the internet. But with Google&#039;s partnerships, and their technology, the UI might come from Google in a revenue-sharing plan. If this ever happens with even 3-4 big newspaper companies, god forbid, then traditional media could bring in the reins on abundance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Always look at today&#039;s news, with APs new guidelines on word use for their articles, to Facebook&#039;s removing links from specific sites. If all of these things come together, content will be re-controlled by the big media centers again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From that point, who knows what will happen. One thing I do know, the free ride will come to an end in the next few years</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one book that should be read by all of you is &#8220;For God, Country &#038; Coca-Cola&#8221;.</p><p>There is a lot to be learned of the history of the print industry, and how it was initially propped by manufacturers such as Coca-cola. Amazing read if you can find the book.</p><p>Great UI and content doesn&#39;t correlate with money all the time. It is pretty much luck and long-term industrial partnerships and perceptions that shapes the good companies from the bad.  Myspace had a horrible UI for many years; before Facebook, it was the most popular site on the net.</p><p>Craigslist UI could be confused with UNIX Pine email software; its simplicity is amazing, but the complexity is non-existent.</p><p>I think the real issue here is how to initially control the revenue structure in balance with the UI. The initial control, such as ads on the side, or paying for content, or forced control, is key for media companies to get their revenue back.</p><p>The RIAA wasn&#39;t wrong in their quest to consolidate the abundance; where they failed is controlling the whole music structure. If the RIAA started enacting copying rules that book publishers had in place for many years, but simultaneously set up content-rich hubs online, then they would&#39;ve won.</p><p>Even though they lost, their imprint on the media industry in terms of abundance is great. Google&#39;s video/audio imprinting technology probably wouldn&#39;t have been created if it wasn&#39;t for the lawsuits or danger of people sharing content illegally. The fall of Oink, the perils of Piratebay, and the loss of population in Soulseek, and the gain of marketers/hackers/media agents in surveying torrents shows that although slow and full of mistakes, the big wigs did gain a lot of ground in the 21st century.</p><p>Newspapers have lost because their models don&#39;t work ( as well ) with the internet. But with Google&#39;s partnerships, and their technology, the UI might come from Google in a revenue-sharing plan. If this ever happens with even 3-4 big newspaper companies, god forbid, then traditional media could bring in the reins on abundance.</p><p>Always look at today&#39;s news, with APs new guidelines on word use for their articles, to Facebook&#39;s removing links from specific sites. If all of these things come together, content will be re-controlled by the big media centers again.</p><p>From that point, who knows what will happen. One thing I do know, the free ride will come to an end in the next few years</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Espacios lógicos para nuestras historias&#160;&#124;&#160;Blogs UC</title><link>http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/comment-page-1/#comment-1094</link> <dc:creator>Espacios lógicos para nuestras historias&#160;&#124;&#160;Blogs UC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:37:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://byjoeybaker.com/?p=1030#comment-1094</guid> <description>[...] por lo que cualquier intento de ponerle trabas o peajes a la información puntual no tener futuro, decía Joey Baker, un blogger muy comentado, “controlar la escasez de algo que no es escaso no puede funcionar”, por eso es iluminador como [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] por lo que cualquier intento de ponerle trabas o peajes a la información puntual no tener futuro, decía Joey Baker, un blogger muy comentado, “controlar la escasez de algo que no es escaso no puede funcionar”, por eso es iluminador como [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dear Bill Keller &#124; byJoeyBaker</title><link>http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/comment-page-1/#comment-1051</link> <dc:creator>Dear Bill Keller &#124; byJoeyBaker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:05:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://byjoeybaker.com/?p=1030#comment-1051</guid> <description>[...] Take the time to re-learn and re-think everything you thought you knew. ‘New media’ is a bit counter-intuitive. Take the time to think about the new rules of the road. And, perhaps consider a hiatus from giving [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Take the time to re-learn and re-think everything you thought you knew. ‘New media’ is a bit counter-intuitive. Take the time to think about the new rules of the road. And, perhaps consider a hiatus from giving [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joey Baker</title><link>http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/comment-page-1/#comment-707</link> <dc:creator>Joey Baker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:08:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://byjoeybaker.com/?p=1030#comment-707</guid> <description>You&#039;re right. We don&#039;t have a great answer for &#039;but, how do I make money?&#039; But, the only way to figure it out is to try. There is no magic switch that we can flip to start making money overnight.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The key is to experiment. We have to find the various methods that are needed to make money. The only way to do that is to play. It&#039;s not like the answer&#039;s just gonna drop into our lap :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re right. We don&#39;t have a great answer for &#39;but, how do I make money?&#39; But, the only way to figure it out is to try. There is no magic switch that we can flip to start making money overnight.</p><p>The key is to experiment. We have to find the various methods that are needed to make money. The only way to do that is to play. It&#39;s not like the answer&#39;s just gonna drop into our lap :)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tex Lovera</title><link>http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/comment-page-1/#comment-706</link> <dc:creator>Tex Lovera</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:47:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://byjoeybaker.com/?p=1030#comment-706</guid> <description>I think both &quot;camps&quot; here are partly correct.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People need to monetize the process somehow.  We can&#039;t all just work &quot;for free&quot; in this society.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the old method is gone.  For good.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, the question to answer is the &quot;how&quot; in my &quot;somehow&quot;.  And, right now,  I don&#039;t see one person coming up with that answer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s going to be answered a million times by a million different people.  It will still be &quot;the invisible hand&quot; pushing things, but it will move electronically at the speed of the net.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both &#8220;camps&#8221; here are partly correct.</p><p>People need to monetize the process somehow.  We can&#39;t all just work &#8220;for free&#8221; in this society.</p><p>But the old method is gone.  For good.</p><p>So, the question to answer is the &#8220;how&#8221; in my &#8220;somehow&#8221;.  And, right now,  I don&#39;t see one person coming up with that answer.</p><p>It&#39;s going to be answered a million times by a million different people.  It will still be &#8220;the invisible hand&#8221; pushing things, but it will move electronically at the speed of the net.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Benjamin Donguk Lukoff</title><link>http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/comment-page-1/#comment-705</link> <dc:creator>Benjamin Donguk Lukoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:49:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://byjoeybaker.com/?p=1030#comment-705</guid> <description>Time is money, money is time. Money may not necessarily be *motivation* but it buys people the time to do good work. I was one of those people producing high quality content for Wikipedia for free. I helped build out the pages on Seattle, the Puget Sound area, Washington, and the Pacific Northwest. That&#039;s because I had the free time. I haven&#039;t had that free time for a while now. If I were paid (note that I&#039;m NOT suggesting Wikipedia go down this path), I&#039;d be able to allocate more time, and be able to do more, and better, work. As it is now, I contribute sporadically and I&#039;d bet the quality of my work has gone down somewhat.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have a pretty decent blog on Seattle history. I think it would be a lot better if I had more time for it. If I could make more money on it, I *would* spend more time on it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think we may be in trouble if we leave the production of content to those who have an insane amount of free time or simply don&#039;t need to sleep.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time is money, money is time. Money may not necessarily be *motivation* but it buys people the time to do good work. I was one of those people producing high quality content for Wikipedia for free. I helped build out the pages on Seattle, the Puget Sound area, Washington, and the Pacific Northwest. That&#39;s because I had the free time. I haven&#39;t had that free time for a while now. If I were paid (note that I&#39;m NOT suggesting Wikipedia go down this path), I&#39;d be able to allocate more time, and be able to do more, and better, work. As it is now, I contribute sporadically and I&#39;d bet the quality of my work has gone down somewhat.</p><p>I have a pretty decent blog on Seattle history. I think it would be a lot better if I had more time for it. If I could make more money on it, I *would* spend more time on it.</p><p>I think we may be in trouble if we leave the production of content to those who have an insane amount of free time or simply don&#39;t need to sleep.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ben</title><link>http://byjoeybaker.com/2009/04/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-make-abundancy-scarce/comment-page-1/#comment-704</link> <dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:10:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://byjoeybaker.com/?p=1030#comment-704</guid> <description>How can somebody be motivated to produce high quality content when consumers dont want to pay for it? Let&#039;s see. Wikipedia found a way. YouTube found a way. A zillion blogs found a way. It turns out that money is not the best motivation to produce high quality content after all. Just google Jayson Blair.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for newspapers&#039; &quot;amazing UI&quot;, search meant rummaging through a pile of old issues. Links didn&#039;t exist. User comments were limited to a few letters to the editor. Updates were limited to once a day. And your fingers got dirty.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Joey Baker is right. &quot;The idea that you can delay, or should delay the transition to an internet based economy is just stupid. We’re here. Welcome to the future.&quot; Yes, welcome.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can somebody be motivated to produce high quality content when consumers dont want to pay for it? Let&#39;s see. Wikipedia found a way. YouTube found a way. A zillion blogs found a way. It turns out that money is not the best motivation to produce high quality content after all. Just google Jayson Blair.</p><p>As for newspapers&#39; &#8220;amazing UI&#8221;, search meant rummaging through a pile of old issues. Links didn&#39;t exist. User comments were limited to a few letters to the editor. Updates were limited to once a day. And your fingers got dirty.</p><p>Joey Baker is right. &#8220;The idea that you can delay, or should delay the transition to an internet based economy is just stupid. We’re here. Welcome to the future.&#8221; Yes, welcome.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
